vlogƵI had a little speaker playing [The VervevlogƵs] vlogƵvlogƵvlogƵand I would say vlogƵhey, do you recognize this song? The band didnvlogƵt see a cent for 20 years because of five notes that they used from a version of a Rolling Stones song.vlogƵvlogƵ
Although the intricacies of copyright law in the music industry may sound like an esoteric avenue of research for an undergraduate, Lubin Arts and Entertainment Management student Sadie Lorence vlogƵ23 had long been up for the challenge. In fact, it was an intersection of interests shevlogƵs had since as long as she can remember.
vlogƵMy fathervlogƵs a musician,vlogƵ says Sadie. vlogƵGrowing up, he was always pointing out the similarities between popular songs on the radio. That would always blow my mind as a kid, and I wanted to delve into that.vlogƵ
I had a little speaker playing [The VervevlogƵs] vlogƵBitter Sweet SymphonyvlogƵvlogƵand I would say vlogƵhey, do you recognize this song? The band didnvlogƵt see a cent for 20 years because of five notes that they used from a version of a Rolling Stones song.vlogƵ
Her fathervlogƵs musical influence was combined with an uncanny interest in the legal profession from an early age. Not many people can say they were voted vlogƵMost Likely to Become a LawyervlogƵ by their third grade class, but itvlogƵs an honor Sadie remains proud of.
Thus, during her senior year, Sadie carried on the Pace tradition of undergraduates conducting unique and impactful research. Her project, It's a bitter sweet symphony: Licensing complexities and copyright law in the music industry explored why The VervevlogƵs 90vlogƵs brit-pop hit vlogƵBitter Sweet SymphonyvlogƵ was indeed bittersweetvlogƵhow it was mired in copyright complication, which Sadie analyzed to explore the tension between ownership and accessibility under US copyright law, and ways in which interpretations of the US Copyright Act have significantly impacted the music industry.
Although this 1997 hit was the bandvlogƵs biggest song by far and has racked up millions of dollars worth of royalties, Verve songwriter Richard Ashcroft was not granted songwriting credits, nor did the band receive any royalties on the song, until 2019. This was because Verve based the instrumentals of vlogƵBitter Sweet SymphonyvlogƵ on a sample of a 1965 Rolling Stones song, vlogƵThe Last Time,vlogƵ by the Andrew Oldham Orchestra, which the Rolling Stones had obtained the right to use from copyright holder Decca Records. However, a lawsuit and contention from Rolling Stones manager Allen Klein meant that The Verve had to relinquish all royalties for the song, and the songwriting credits were subsequently given to Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. It wasnvlogƵt until KleinvlogƵs death in 2019 that the rights and future royalties were ceded to The VervevlogƵs Ashcroft.
Yet, as Sadie explains, the onion can be peeled back even further. The Rolling Stones song vlogƵThe Last Time,vlogƵ features the chorus of a song vlogƵThis May Be The Last Time,vlogƵ from the gospel group The Staples SingersvlogƵcreating an argument that the Rolling Stones song itself can be disputed in regards to its licensing. Additionally, the five notes that were so heavily contested in vlogƵBitter Sweet SymphonyvlogƵ were credited to Mick Jagger and Keith RichardsvlogƵbut not the composer in the Andrew Oldham Orchestra, who is the one who arguably deserves the credit.
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Suffice to say, the songvlogƵs history isvlogƵcomplicated.
vlogƵResearching this project was tough,vlogƵ notes Sadie, after explaining the many intricacies of this specific case, and the aftershocks it created. vlogƵBecause music is so abstract and subjective, everyone has their own opinions or thoughts. You can play two songs next to each other, one person thinks theyvlogƵre entirely different, one doesnvlogƵt. Is there a perfect solution? IvlogƵm not sure, but there has to be a better one.vlogƵ
To hone in on the legal complexities of this case, Sadie valued the expertise of her mentor, Lubin Professor of Business Law and Ivan Fox Scholar Jessica Magaldi, JD. Sadie had taken some of MagaldivlogƵs classes early on in her undergraduate careervlogƵas Sadie jokes, her class was the only class she enjoyed attending on Zoom during the height of the pandemicvlogƵand knew that having her as a resource would greatly enhance the quality of her work.
vlogƵShe is someone IvlogƵve looked up to for a long time,vlogƵ said Sadie vlogƵI was even nervous getting the courage to ask her to be my advisor. It was a really wonderful time working with her, actually presenting, seeing my work on a big poster board.vlogƵ
Magaldi, having worked with many students over the course of her career, was particularly impressed with SadievlogƵs drive and enthusiasm to tackle such a complex topic.
"SadievlogƵs research fits into a long history of the lawvlogƵs attempts to acknowledge and encourage the creativity of artists and to balance the rights of an original artist to be rewarded and acknowledged for their artistic creation with the rights of a artist who comes after who is inspired by that original work to make an original work of their own," noted Magaldi. "The law is always trying to navigate where the line is between inspiration and infringement.
As technology advances and the lines between original works continue to blur, licensing issues in sampling will likely even become more pronounced, something Sadie hopes to further explore and follow in the future.
vlogƵSo many great musical works have come out of sampling. What I learned is there should be protection both waysvlogƵboth for the artist, who is licensing their work out there, and also for the recipient of the license, giving the green light, the ok, I feel like there should be more of an industry standard process. There are more provisions to go.vlogƵ
As for SadievlogƵs future plans? LetvlogƵs just say SadievlogƵs third grade classmates and her father would hardly be surprised. The project has confirmed her desire to make an impact in entertainment law, where she has definitely found her groove.
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